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These are my second pair of G12s, so, obviously, I like them. They have very long points, making them excellent on snow, where they will always find good grip. Slightly shorter points might be better for mixed stuff, although I've never found this to be a problem. They are well made and solid. There is plenty of metal to allow for wear and sharpening. I've used they with Scarpa Manta Pros and La Sportiva boots, both B2s. They have fitted will in both cases and were easy to fit and remove. They have never fallen off or needed tightening.